Monday, January 21, 2008

MLK

i was invited to go check out a tribute to mlk today. can i just say that i (and probably others) might be more inclined to go it it weren't SO religious? i mean, i know dr. king was a reverend and all, but can't there be a tribute to him without feeling like i'm going to some southern baptist revival?

i am religious, but not in that way, and some people just flat-out aren't religious. however, they still might want to show their appreciation for all that he's done, but don't want to be force fed the gospel choir.


that's all.

24 comments:

cwayne said...

I can appreciate that sentiment. I'm not religious at all. But the fact that he was a Reverend and used that position and its moral authority to help him fight for our causes pretty much insures that these tributes will have plenty of choirs.

mendegirl said...

um, am I shocked that you would find some reason to "not" go to a tribute to an American that happened to be black?

nope.

aybe you should call this blog the "anti-black" black girl.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. I and others understand what you and many other sacrificed for us.

Even if TBG thinks that sitting through a gospel choir or ten is too high a price to for herself to pay to say thank you. Had there not been Rev. King there probably wouldn't have been a couple named the Lovings, and we know how thankful you should be to them.

: JustaDog said...

Just ignore medegirl - she sounds like a racist to me.

Your post made me laugh and think back to when my parents made me go to church.

Today I remember Rosa Parks, not MLK. To me Ms. Parks will forever be the real heroine for what our Constitution promises.

mendegirl said...

justadog: does this mean you're going to ignore me too?

just curious. . . it would be make my MLK day just a little better. Although sunshine in Portland is cool, too today.

smooches!

: JustaDog said...

I know your type. You attack people by guilt and you try to motivate your cause with guilt, just like you tried in vain to attack "That Black Girl" with liberal-style guilt statements.

I think the owner of this blog is intelligent enough to see through your liberal tripe. I sure am.

This MLK day was made greater for me by posting how liberals like you have oppressed the black people for the past decades.

mendegirl said...

the only black person I have oppressed is my child.

but thanks for playing. . . .

Falone said...

I'm Roman Catholic, and, by default, our masses tend to be quite somber. Ive always wanted to go to a Baptist church, just to hear a "real" choir. They seem so lively.

Natalie said...

I always feel uncomfortable in church and seeing as MLK was certainly not about discomfort I am sure he would understand my not wanting to go to a celebration of that type. That being said. I am sure there are places in Portland (maybe colleges) that weren't doing religious themed celebrations.

C. Holden Blackman said...

What she said: i ... might be more inclined to go it it weren't SO religious?

What she meant: i ... might be more inclined to go it it weren't SO black?

D said...

I agree, TBG.

As for the haters... sorry, you've got it wrong this time, and TBG has it right. : ]

P. said...

"I grew up in an area of the country that is very white. And as such, was very sheltered from issues of race and culture... I don't know why, but I've always been attracted to people who are different than I am."

d: You are hardly unbiased. Yours is the same fawning assimilationist agenda as is not to subtly espoused by TBG. And, I would hazard that your post here was motivated by the same antipathy for all things overtly black.

I don't even believe in god, and I absolutely give less than a rat's ass about sweet white jesus. However, that wouldn't stop me from attending a ceremony to honor MLK. The man gave his life, not only to secure the civil rights of black folks, but also to make truths out of Thomas Jefferson's empty lies. His face should be added to Mount Rushmore. Not because he is the default black historical figure, but rather because he forced the United States of America to--at least in a de jure sense--live up to the words that heralded the inception of this country; "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal... yadda yadda yadda."

What do I care if the ceremony to honor him is couched in the trappings of a religious spectacle? As I am wholly indifferent, it doesn't offend me in the slightest way. It's just theater as far as I'm concerned. And, I greatly suspect that anyone who would take offense at such an observance, especially in light of the significance of the man in question, has an ulterior motive. I find this especially galling since TBG owes the legality of her marriage, in large part, to the efforts of MLK.

hw said...

I am a Buddhist and an atheist but I find it easier to just say I am "not religious" because nowdays, people always assume that being "religious" means you are Christian or Catholic or any of the other God religions.

But anyways, I deeply respect MLK and I would definitely go to one of his tributes. It doesn't matter whether the ceremony incorporates a bit of religion - MLK was religous! Religion is part of who he was...and we are supposed to be honoring his life right?

Once again, I'm not religious but I listen to gospel music...I just find it relaxing and uplifting. I've gotten used to ignoring references to God because they are so normal in American society now.

P.S. Hopefully Obama won't incorporate religion so much into his presidency as Bush did.

Anonymous said...

hw,
wow, you're hopeful... 'Hopefully Obama won't incorporate religion so much into his presidency as Bush did.'

TBG said...

'I don't even believe in god, and I absolutely give less than a rat's ass about sweet white jesus.'

P, dear, I know it's a side point, but Jesus wasn't white. Just thought you should know.

C. Holden Blackman said...

I know it's a side point, but Jesus wasn't white. Just thought you should know.

It was a facetious comment. I am well aware that Yeshua Ben Joseph, if he existed, was a Palestinian Jew. Whether or not that would have made him white is a matter of debate. However, he is typically depicted as a doleful looking and vaguely effeminate Norwegian.

chris said...

Being that you seem to be making an effort to learn more about the black community/experience, I thought you would over look the religious aspect and go for the learning experience--that's if you really were interested in going at all.

cardiowhore said...

I understand TBG I would like to attend a memeorial that would be more Reserved and not a lot of "Hooping and Hollering" "getting the Holy Ghost"and finally someone will faint and need to be fanned by eight other people before starting to speak in tounge! How Genuine.

chandy said...

Came across your blog and must say your thoughts on many subjects had me thinking: "Geez, I'm not alone". When I do venture to score the net, I come across more (black) males expressing views such as yours. It's just great to read a (black) female who feels strongly about and especially who's not afraid to express her opinions on "taboo" issues.

Yay for you. I'll keep perusing!

Anonymous said...

Who do you think MLK was? He stood for many things,but he was a minister. Most of his marches, meetings and rallies started or ended at churches. Don't forget what a world changer MLK was. How do you think his birthday should be celebrated? I'm really surprised that a fake i wish i was white because i have some issues that i don't understand black woman like you even recognize, never alone celebrate that day.

Marilyn said...

I think I "get" your comments regarding MLK day. Actually laughted. I don't believe you are anti-black, anti-religious, etc. I was raised in the South with the baptist and African Methodist Episcopal (AME) influences. I think too many MLK Day programs have made MLK a caricature of who he was, what he died for, what he stood for and etc. I celebrate his life and the civil rights movement that opened many opportunities for my generation in other ways, in particular, community service all year and use his day a kick-off day or a day of reflection. Too many of us (ALL colors) use MLK Day as the one day of the year to show our diversity, tolerance and etc. For the 364 other days we don't live, think or breath the DREAM. Just my thoughts.

Sheena said...

Without MLK, you and your white husband probably wouldn't be together today. You know Ive been reading your blog a lot and I do agree with a lot of things you say even though I do feel guilty about feeling that way but being a bi-racial woman myself, Im kind of appalled!

"i mean, i know dr. king was a reverend and all, but can't there be a tribute to him without feeling like i'm going to some southern baptist revival?"

WHAT?? I'm not even religious and Im less inclined to go to a predominately black church myself since I grew up in one and didn't have a great experience with it but DAMN that is Martin Luther King! Not just some reverend. Stop hating your race.
Embrace both sides and stop trying to distance yourself so much. Its obvious that is what you're doing.

Sheena said...

Without MLK, you and your white husband probably wouldn't be together today. You know Ive been reading your blog a lot and I do agree with a lot of things you say even though I do feel guilty about feeling that way but being a bi-racial woman myself, Im kind of appalled!

"i mean, i know dr. king was a reverend and all, but can't there be a tribute to him without feeling like i'm going to some southern baptist revival?"

WHAT?? I'm not even religious and Im less inclined to go to a predominately black church myself since I grew up in one and didn't have a great experience with it but DAMN that is Martin Luther King! Not just some reverend. Stop hating your race.
Embrace both sides and stop trying to distance yourself so much. Its obvious that is what you're doing.

Tsuki Kiss said...

I'm actually really surprised you called MLK day religiius..never is my life have I thought of it that way. For me the day was just to honor him for all he has done for equality. Nothing more jor less. I forgot he was a preachor, reverend at all.

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